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July 8, 2008

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We got so big so fast!!!

Yes To Democracy has moved to a better and more comfortable server. We’ve done a little tweaking so go have a gander! We are impressed with our work!

We are now at moveable type and working OVERTIME trying to establish ourselves. Please subscribe to our feed and keep up with all of our neatness!

Also, an array of URLs will eventually be forwarded over to our new home and all of our proof is over there so don’t worry, we aren’t losing any information!

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Please, continue to visit! We’re even BETTER now… I promise!

(This is the last time I ask you this huge favor!)

watch our ad before you go:

Here, read this quote:

Having Obama in office would only initiate a negative reaction from other countries, because he is so inexperienced. He is still very young, and although the world believes they can handle a new American leader without white skin, I don’t know if I believe it.

This isn’t remotely racist… this is BLATANTLY racist, outlandishly racist! Read the rest of this…

Not only is it factually WRONG since plenty of world leaders have actually come forth and spoken highly of Senator Obama, but the implication here isn’t just that the world under Obama would be HORRIBLE but it would be horrible because Senator Obama is black! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my entire life!

Is this quote even disputable?! NO. it cannot be taken ANY other way.

So what else to be expected from PUMA voters other than to shower this person with praise! Like here..

Not only does this person condone john mccain’s attempts to STOP any pavement to universal healthcare, but PUMA voters blatantly contradict themselves when they call ANY Obama supporter some “teenage, ignorant, young, twit” and this eighteen year old is littered with praise.

Wait- wasn’t Hillary’s passion establishing universal healthcare? Hmmm.. now why would PUMAs praise someone who OPPOSES that?

Open Thread

July 7, 2008

We start this morning with our PUMA ad which has many responses by PUMAbots… go challenge their rhetoric.

Good morning Democrats. I want to say Thank You! This website is 8 days old now and we’ve accomplished A LOT. Many of us have sent Murphy our Email, “Answers Please.” And many of us should continue to send it her way!

We have already been mentioned on Politico, No Quarter (as you can imagine that was horrible), Democracy.org, Taylor Marsh’s “Hot read”, Democracy.org, PAdems, I am sure we are forgetting someone else, and a slew of PUMA blogs chastising us, as expected. Now we’ve even got a myspace group dedicated to our cause, started by a wonderful Democrat!

We’re doing awesome.

This is an Open thread because today I’ve got some stuff going on! Tonight I will have something special for you all by a REAL Hillary supporter. And I want to hear from OTHER Hillary supporters.

Question: Is anyone going to Denver?

As I have mentioned before, this is the ultimate culmination of identity politics. When two victim groups’ interests collide, one or the other will be disappointed. I chuckle (Heck, LOL!) when I see them trying to out-victim each other.

The real question is whether the Democratic party will figure this out, and change their tactics after the (hopefully) stunning defeat of the King victim, BHO. I’m not holding my breath. I foresee several more years of “Obama didn’t win because of all the RACISTS!!!!!” And the Shrillary gang will be whining “She didn’t win because of all the SEXISTS!!!!” for years to come as well. I’m looking forward to the told-you-so recriminations within the Democrat party!

Frightening how they can all be so blinded by it all… The concept that either of them should be entitled to anything strictly by their membership in the victim class is so repugnant to most of us….

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Yeah, it’s so good to have Republicans on your side, right PUMA?

“Looks like it really pained her to endorse Obama. Since she hasn’t done anything for anyone but herself, Hillary’s “full support” really equates to “no support”. Don’t be fooled into feeling pity or admiration for this evil sociopath. “Public service” my ass. She’s like one of those horror movie monsters that can’t be killed and keep coming back to get you. The power-hungry always turn up again.
I wish there were tapes of her and Bubba’s verbal exchanges from the campaign, especially at the end when losing became inevitable. Now that would be entertaining!”

Right PUMA. You’re being oh-so welcomed by those Republicans who never did ANYTHING to Hillary, right? Those Republicans who never made sexist remarks about Clinton. No, there is no 527 anti-clinton group founded by GOP called, “Citizens United Not Timid.” Seems like Republicans really like using that word:

No, Republicans weren’t behind any of these things!

Earlier this year, an infamous, though quite mainstream, Republican Party operative quietly launched a new anti-Hillary Clinton 527 group called Citizens United Not Timid — yes, it really is C.U.N.T. The notorious operative behind it is Roger Stone, a protege of Richard Nixon who is known for his trademark impeccable grooming, a facade that masks as thoroughly sleazy a character as any operating in modern politics.

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PUMAs are like the sad stories of battered women, they make excuses for those who batter them, and then blame everyone around for not coming to their aid. “We didnt leave the Democratic Party, they left us.” “Why didn’t the DNC come to Clinton’s defense?”

Question: when is the DNC going to come to Obama’s defense against racism? Here is an answer PUMA: It’s not their job!

Call it one more “coincidence” to add the growing and growing list of coincidences against PUMA.
Hillary Clinton’s registrar information:

Administrative Contact:
Hillary Clinton for President info@hillaryclinton.com
4420 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
US
703-469-2008 fax: 703-962-8600

Barack Obama’s Registrar information:

Administrative Contact:
Admin, Admin admin@barackobama.com
Obama for America
233 N. Michigan Ave
Suite 1100
Chicago, Illinois 60601
United States
3128192008

John McCain’s registrar information:

DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

And like we’ve already mentioned, the slew of PUMA sister sites that rapidly turned pro-mccain. Like stop-obama.org who was in bed with Free Republic:

DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
stop-obama.org@domainsbyproxy.com

Remember our other story about this? HERE

Why is Senator McCain’s information private just like the PUMA sites? Why isn’t his site paid for by “McCain for America” just like Senator Obama’s, Senator Clinton’s, and John McCain’s ads?

Questions, questions, questions. The evidence just continues to mount. My question for PUMAs though- when does all of this stop becoming coincidence?
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Typing up a fake document, posting it on a website and saying, “we’re a non-profit PAC.. donate here” doesn’t make you a PAC. Neither does copying and pasting a seal.

see how easy?

What… it doesn’t? No, csfjm.com it doesn’t.

According to Opensecrets.org CSFJM pac is no pac at all. I couldn’t find ANY information regarding this so called pac. Maybe they just like the word pac, it makes their site sound super legit. Maybe they just like taking donations.

They have Will Bowers blogrolled along with a whole slew of other PUMAs who supposedly “support” their non-PAC PAC. And for not being correlated with HCSFJM.com it sure looks EXACTLY like it- with the same registrar information and all! What a coincidence, right? So I feel it is safe to say they are very much so correlated and the “Hillary Clinton Supporters For John McCain” site is a fraud trying to rip people off for their own profit.

Over at HCSFJM.com, you can hear audio of a man proclaiming that Senator Obama has a drug problem! Well, my my my, is that a fact?

He doesn’t go into detail, he just feels comfortable spouting this rhetoric.

Good call PUMA, your coalition is so…. diverse.

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This a debate from September 2007, a debate with all Democratic nominees and Senator Obama is saying the EXACT same thing along with Senator Hillary Clinton completely agreeing with Senator Obama and expressing the need for a Democratic majority.

Barack Obama is NOT flip-flopping on Iraq. He has ALWAYS said he cannot FULLY commit to the timeline and that there has to be leeway.

Why? What is that?! Hillary Clinton saying ” I agree with Senator Obama.” Well, well, this is just MORE proof that Hillary has MUCH more in common with DEMOCRATS than REPUBLICANS.

suck on that idiot Republicans and PUMAs.. we all know that you’re in cahoots with FOX and Joe Scarborough’s smear campaign.

Conservatives can say these things about Hillary Clinton and PUMA kisses their asses, like true idiots.

HERE. Free Republic, the website in cahoots with Stop-Obama, the PUMA site.. hmm, interesting.

But Democrats shouldn’t be mad when PUMAs post this about Barack.

And don’t you DARE call a PUMA racist because of racist things like this. No, It’s not despicable or anything. Yeah.

Also, last night PUMApac was on blogtalkradio and they were chatting away all the conspiratorial theories about just what happened at the caucuses. Well, I was calling and calling but these women were so busy chatting away that my call was pushed back until it was too late to say anything- what’s worse is that I had to listen to their jabber.

What was a pro? I caught this little comment by a PUMA right after the show. I took a screenshot instantly.

check it out

It saved kind of small, so if you are on a laptop it may almost be unreadable. Know what it says?

“We don’t need a POTUS that talks getto.”

WOW. So what is the difference between talking “getto” and having an accent? According to the 18 million..err.. 3 million.. er who knows how many PUMAs, I am guessing one requires you to be black.

I want to take this opportunity to speak directly to those of you who oppose my decision to support the FISA compromise.

This was not an easy call for me. I know that the FISA bill that passed the House is far from perfect. I wouldn’t have drafted the legislation like this, and it does not resolve all of the concerns that we have about President Bush’s abuse of executive power. It grants retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies that may have violated the law by cooperating with the Bush administration’s program of warrantless wiretapping. This potentially weakens the deterrent effect of the law and removes an important tool for the American people to demand accountability for past abuses. That’s why I support striking Title II from the bill, and will work with Chris Dodd, Jeff Bingaman and others in an effort to remove this provision in the Senate.

But I also believe that the compromise bill is far better than the Protect America Act that I voted against last year. The exclusivity provision makes it clear to any president or telecommunications company that no law supersedes the authority of the FISA court. In a dangerous world, government must have the authority to collect the intelligence we need to protect the American people. But in a free society, that authority cannot be unlimited. As I’ve said many times, an independent monitor must watch the watchers to prevent abuses and to protect the civil liberties of the American people. This compromise law assures that the FISA court has that responsibility.

The Inspectors General report also provides a real mechanism for accountability and should not be discounted. It will allow a close look at past misconduct without hurdles that would exist in federal court because of classification issues. The recent investigation (PDF) uncovering the illegal politicization of Justice Department hiring sets a strong example of the accountability that can come from a tough and thorough IG report.

The ability to monitor and track individuals who want to attack the United States is a vital counter-terrorism tool, and I’m persuaded that it is necessary to keep the American people safe — particularly since certain electronic surveillance orders will begin to expire later this summer. Given the choice between voting for an improved yet imperfect bill, and losing important surveillance tools, I’ve chosen to support the current compromise. I do so with the firm intention — once I’m sworn in as president — to have my Attorney General conduct a comprehensive review of all our surveillance programs, and to make further recommendations on any steps needed to preserve civil liberties and to prevent executive branch abuse in the future.

Now, I understand why some of you feel differently about the current bill, and I’m happy to take my lumps on this side and elsewhere. For the truth is that your organizing, your activism and your passion is an important reason why this bill is better than previous versions. No tool has been more important in focusing peoples’ attention on the abuses of executive power in this administration than the active and sustained engagement of American citizens. That holds true — not just on wiretapping, but on a range of issues where Washington has let the American people down.

I learned long ago, when working as an organizer on the South Side of Chicago, that when citizens join their voices together, they can hold their leaders accountable. I’m not exempt from that. I’m certainly not perfect, and expect to be held accountable too. I cannot promise to agree with you on every issue. But I do promise to listen to your concerns, take them seriously, and seek to earn your ongoing support to change the country. That is why we have built the largest grassroots campaign in the history of presidential politics, and that is the kind of White House that I intend to run as president of the United States — a White House that takes the Constitution seriously, conducts the peoples’ business out in the open, welcomes and listens to dissenting views, and asks you to play your part in shaping our country’s destiny.

Democracy cannot exist without strong differences. And going forward, some of you may decide that my FISA position is a deal breaker. That’s ok. But I think it is worth pointing out that our agreement on the vast majority of issues that matter outweighs the differences we may have. After all, the choice in this election could not be clearer. Whether it is the economy, foreign policy, or the Supreme Court, my opponent has embraced the failed course of the last eight years, while I want to take this country in a new direction. Make no mistake: if John McCain is elected, the fundamental direction of this country that we love will not change. But if we come together, we have an historic opportunity to chart a new course, a better course.

So I appreciate the feedback through my.barackobama.com, and I look forward to continuing the conversation in the months and years to come. Together, we have a lot of work to do.

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DIGG THIS

Look at this crazy petition against Senator Obama. I say crazy because notice how almost NO Obama supporter has infringed on their right to sign a petition, or belittled them for signing this petition that denigrates the entire democratic process (primaries are won by delegates/superdelegates NOT popular vote). Isn’t that crazy? Because supposedly us Democrats are sooo angry, disgusting, and vile.

Now look at this petition, against PUMA

Notice how almost EVERY signature is by a PUMA hijacking the petition and being rude, vitriolic, and foul.

 

Yeah, us Obama supporters- we’re the”twits.”